M E E T I N G Tuesday July 19, 1988 7:30 P.M. Northland Public Library S P E A K E R Dr. D

                          M E E T I N G

                             Tuesday
                          July 19, 1988
                            7:30 P.M.
                    Northland Public Library


                          S P E A K E R

                         Dr. Duane Gish
                      Dr. Russell Doolitle

                               A T

                       Liberty University



                            T O P I C

                       Creation/Evolution
                             Debate


	The CSF has obtained for this months meeting the famous video
tape of the Gish/Doolittle Debate.  This is a tape we will show of
the nationally televised creation/evolution debate held at Liberty
Baptist College (now Liberty University).  It was between Dr. Duane
Gish from the Institution for Creation Research (ICR) in San Diego,
California and Dr. Russell Doolittle.  Prof. Doolittle is a famous
evolutionist who agreed a couple of years ago to a face to face
confrontation with Dr. Gish over the issue of creation/ evolution. 


	I shouldn't tell you the end, but anyway "we" won.  Most have
said that Dr. Doolittle simply blew his chance to present an
effective case for scientific evolution.  Sorry for that Oxymoron,
since I don't consider evolution to be scientific at all.

	I hope you can make it to this debate presentation.  Bring a
friend who is interested.

                     NEWS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS

I.	Update on the CSF fellowship dinner.  As of right now, due to
the higher than expected cost of this affair, we will be asking the
membership at the meeting whether or not they want this dinner and
how much they are willing to spend.  I will let you know next month
the outcome.

                         PALUXY UPDATE:

II.	At the June meeting Hugh Miller was here from Columbus, Ohio. 
He provided me with new information about the work at the Paluxy
River in Texas.   Where they are trying to see if Man and Dinosaurs
walked the Earth at the same time.  Many of you are aware of the
controversy surrounding the evidence so far.  Especially after it
appeared that some "good" man tracks have weathered to appear to
be most assuredly from a large dinosaur.

	What he had was photos showing the machine they are using,
called a rough terrain fork-lift.  By attaching a bucket in place
of the fork they were able to move over 200 square feet of rock in
seven hours.  The very eroded human-like footprints they were
following proved to be discontinuous for the eight feet they dug
in the rock.  They did follow one monstrous duck-billed dinosaur
footprint from one known print on one side of the river to the
other side by digging in the bank, so the concept and the equipment
works well. 

                         SCIENCE UPDATE:

III.	You should subscribe to the Bible-Science Newsletter.  (BSA,
2911 East 42nd Street, Minneapolis, MN  55406; and ask for the
three free issues offer.  In the Contrast section of the July-
August, 1988 issue, there was a review of the evolution book,
Origin and Evolution of the Universe, Evidence for Design?  This
book is a compiled anthology of seventeen top scientists who were
trying to answer the arguments from design of William Paley's 1802
book Natural Theology.  The weakness of their arguments is evident
in that they didn't even mention William Paley.  After explaining
how the universe came into being by the Big Bang, W.G. Unruh
F.R.S.C., explains in his last paragraph,

		"Why did the universe come into being?  Why did some tiny
     amount of space come into existence with such an inconceivable
     density of matter?  Neither I nor anyone else can answer these
     questions.  The theory breaks down here.  All we can say is
     that the universe must have come into existence, since we are
     here."

How's that for clear and concise thinking in science.  Speaking of
this big bang model, Prof. Unruh admits:

		"Although this model became standard, it also left a
     number of unsolved problems.  In spite of much effort, over
     a twenty-year period, these problems seem to have no possible
     solution."

Interestingly enough, Prof. Doolittle also has a section written
in this book.  In it he says, 

		"We do not really understand how the interactions of mul-
     tiple genes are combined so as to produce, through de-
     velopment, whole animals and plants."

	This gives you a small feeling of some of the good articles
about creation/evolution that are published every month.  In the
next few months I hope to bring you some of these highlights and
good information that will help you better understand the issues
and begin to form an opinion about creation and evolution on your
own.

                      Henry A. Jackson III
                          Secretary/CSF
                       362 Ashland Avenue
                    Pittsburgh PA 15228-2213
                         (412)  341-4908

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